In a Vase on Monday: Much Too Strong for Phantasie

Dear love, for nothing less than thee
Would I have broke this happy dreame;
It was a theame
For reason, much too strong for phantasie,
Therefore thou wak’d’st me wisely; yet
My dream thou brok’st not, but continued’st it.from ‘The Dreame’ by John Donne, 1633

Early this year I ordered rooted cuttings of some hardy chrysanthemums from a specialist dahlia and chrysanthemum grower and, tempted by the success of some of our blogging community in growing chrysanthemums in the greenhouse for late blooms, decided to have a go myself. Instead of a more typical variety, I thought I may as well try something a bit different – and to be honest I wasn’t especially confident of having any success – so chose one of the striking ‘fantasy chrysanthemums’, in this case ‘Salhouse Joy’.

Once the cutting was well-established it was planted into a large terracotta pot which lived outside the Coop until early autumn, at which point it was moved inside. Suggested dates for ‘stopping’ had been given, but as I wasn’t growing chrysanthemums for exhibition I didn’t really pay any attention to this – although perhaps should have done because in early summer the stems were so tall they dwarfed me and without staking were prone to snapping. At that point I just lopped the main stems to a manageable height which the plant doesn’t seem to have minded as the stems are now covered in buds – they are also covered in spider mite, but that’s another story!

The blooms, however, are a success story, as you can see – a fantastical, out-of-this-world creation and I am astonished at how easy they proved to be to grow,

considering the relative neglect they have been subjected to. I did talk to them, I suppose (sometimes severely), and they have been fed and watered when it occurred to me to do so (or, more likely, when the leaves began drooping), and I imagine they will continue to provide blooms for several weeks. The Coop is kept frost-free, but how will they fare if temperatures really drop outside I wonder?

Seeking a ‘fantasy’ connection for a prop to accompany the vase (three stems of Salhouse Joy’ placed into a car boot found vase which looks and feels very like the original 60s/70s Caithness Glass, although I have not seen that particular shape of vase before), I came across the poem ‘The Dreame’, by Jonne Donne, a poet I enjoyed hugely when studying him at A-Level, so was pleasantly distracted before writing this post.

Thank you for all your miniature creations last week on IAVOM’s sixth anniversary – I thoroughly enjoyed this challenge and it was a delight to see your dinky little vases. Sandra of Wild Daffodil‘s name has been drawn out of my gardening hat and wins some biodegradable floral foam which will be in the post shortly. Back to normal this week, so no challenges other than to find something from your garden or nearby to pop into a vase or other receptacle and bring inside for your delectation. If you would like to share them with us too, please leave links to and from this post.

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64 Responses to In a Vase on Monday: Much Too Strong for Phantasie

  1. the running wave says:

    Greetings on a cold and frosty morning Cathy! I love your other worldly chrysanthemums! They are so expressive and remind me of dancers in rehearsal, extending their graceful arms here, and then there! Gorgeous colour too. Amanda https://therunningwave.blogspot.com/2019/11/a-bouquet-garni-in-vase-on-monday.html

  2. Heyjude says:

    They are pretty fantastical! I thought that chrysanthemums were frost hardy? Certainly a welcome sight in these dark days.

    • Cathy says:

      These ones are not frost hardy and definitely greenhouse only as far as flowering goes. I think I might grow another of them next year based on this years experience, even if it does involve b=nothong but leaves for months and months!

  3. Oh wow! These are knockout! I absolutely love them. How fabulous they look.
    Funny you chose Donne as I have been re- reading about Derek Jarman’s garden where he chose ‘The sun rising’ as a poem to go on the exterior of his house. I too studied Donne many years ago and enjoyed rereading the poem.

  4. pbmgarden says:

    Glad your chrysanthemums performed so well for you. Lovely.

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  5. AlisonC says:

    This is beautiful. I’ll have to look it up! So pleased you are having success with your Chrysanthemums. Mine thrive on neglect but are also way too tall and fall over. I must learn when to stop them. The lived in a cold greenhouse or tunnel all winter and survived despite temps of -5.
    Here are my Chrysanthemums:
    https://ablogaboutcompost.blogspot.com/2019/11/late-colour-in-vase-on-monday.html

    • Cathy says:

      I was pretty sure you were one of the bloggers who inspired to try these indoor ones, so it’s good to read about your experience again. Do yours keep their foliage after they have flowered, and do you cut them back at some stage? I bought the plug from Halls of Hedon, and their website would give you some ideas of ‘stopping’ dates

  6. What enchanting chrysanthemums Cathy! They look so whimsical, like something from a Dr. Seuss book, and I love them. You must be so pleased. Thanks for sharing your adventure with them.

    • Cathy says:

      Oh yes, whimsical is a good word – it certainly seems quite bizarre that the only thing making an impact bloom wise at the moment has such gob-smackingly beautiful and ornate flowers

  7. Noelle says:

    Those Chrysanthemums are amazing, and what a lovely deep purple colour. They are a real show stopper. Here are my survivors from last night’s frost: https://noellemace.blogspot.com/2019/11/in-vase-on-monday-november-beauties.html

    • Cathy says:

      Yes, in fact they don’t need to stop the show as they perform so well in their own right 🙂 Another frost here last night too

  8. How interesting, I had no clue what that was and would never have guessed a Chrysanthemum. I love the form and color, that will be fun to cut for the winter vases. I enjoyed all the miniatures last week. Here is my vase: http://theshrubqueen.com/2019/11/18/in-a-vase-on-monday-fringe-benefits/

  9. Chloris says:

    How beautiful and now I have one too. I have never grown greenhouse chrysanthemums before so I am very excited about having this, many thanks.

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  11. Annette says:

    Wow, I’ve never seen such an exotic chrysanthemum! Only goes to show that we live at the back of beyond. 😉 I’m presently enjoying my modest ones, they’re really hard to beat at this time of year. I’d be interested to see how hardy it is but you may not want to take any chances. Here’s my vase: https://personaleden.wordpress.com/2019/11/18/indecent-proposal-ein-unmoralisches-angebot/ …and no, it’s not what you might think 😉 Have a great week x

  12. Kris P says:

    Wow, that chrysanthemum is indeed fantastic (despite the spider mites)! I wish I could grow something on that order but I’ve yet to even see the more exotic forms of these plants in catalogs and all my local garden centers offer are sad little specimens. But perhaps I haven’t searched widely enough! Although it remains summer-like here, I finally pulled all my remaining zinnias this weekend so you don’t have to guess what my vases are filled with: https://krispgarden.blogspot.com/2019/11/in-vase-on-monday-last-call-for-zinnias.html

    Thanks, as always, for hosting, Cathy.

    • Cathy says:

      The specialist nursey it came from sell them as rooted cuttings, sent out Feb-May, depending on the facilities you have for growing them on

  13. Eliza Waters says:

    Fun, quirky blooms. I’d say your experiment worked out well!

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  15. Cathy says:

    Aren’t they fantastical?! I seem to be coming across lots of Chrysanthemums in blogs this year and quite like them all. And how tall yours grew! I also love the poem. John Donne is an old favourite of mine too – my A’ Level teacher put such life and vigour into his poetry when reading it and I always think of her when I come across a John Donne poem or quote! Here is my vase for today Cathy. Thanks as always. https://wordsandherbs.com/2019/11/18/in-a-vase-on-monday-red-chief/

    • Cathy says:

      Another example of being inspired by other bloggers – I wouldn’t have given them greenhouse-room in the past! One of our English teachers was quite tough with our group so he was surprised when we said that we really appreciated his method of teaching – can’t remember his name, but vaguely recall his face

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  17. Cath Moore says:

    That is an absolutely stunning variety! Well done in getting it so well established! here’s my entry https://cathscamera.wordpress.com/2019/11/19/sweet-peas-in-a-vase/

  18. smallsunnygarden says:

    Your chrysanthemums are indeed fantastic in every sense, Cathy! I’m not familiar with these at all, but can certainly see why you would give them greenhouse space. Donne does seem a lovely accompaniment too.
    No vase from me still, but at least I am crawling back up into the blogosphere a little bit today 😉 visiting friends and posting just a wee bit. So sorry to have missed the IaVoM anniversary though!

  19. Yes, those are pretty unique Chrysanthemums, aren’t they? Apparently, you have the touch with them. They’re great cut flowers, too! Win, win.

  20. Oh ‘Salhouse Joy’ is so deliciously dark and spooky Cathy 😄 I toyed with chrysanths back in 2015 with a small rooted collection but none of them were stayers. Must try again and also read some of John Donne’s poetry. Our ‘A’ level English Literature poetry content was given over to W.B.Yeats and T.S. Eliot . I still pick my original T.S Eliot text book out to dip into every now and then with just as much enjoyment as I did all those years ago.

    • Cathy says:

      Spooky? Yes, I see what you mean. I too had a pack of 6 from Sarah Raven once, 3 indoor and 3 outdoor but had no success whatsoever – but in hindsiggt I can see it was only a half-hearted attempt. And i also did Eliot, which, like Donne, I still quote to myself now and then and dip into – such great choices to srudy 😊

  21. What incredible blooms – they obviously liked your garden! No blooms whatsoever here now….even the ornamental grasses look blah…

  22. Cathy, I love your chrysanthemums. Its purple color, its shape is fantastic, I would never say it is a chrysanthemum. His bearing is divine. And how tall they grew. They are wonderful. I liked Donne’s poem a lot. I have not written before because I feel very bad, depressed. Have a great weekend. Greetings from margarita.

  23. I love those blooms! Magical and a little bit witchy.
    I’m so excited to win your 6th Anniversary Draw!!! Florists foam – biodegradable – brilliant!
    I’d better get busy when it arrives and create something for IAVOM. 🙂
    Thank you so much Cathy – it is a lovely boost to win a prize. ❤

  24. tonytomeo says:

    That is SO weird! I noticed that the leaves look like chrysanthemum leaves before I recognized the flowers. They sort of look like old fashioned spider mums, but are even weirder.

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